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Boutique consultancy that's lost its way - Senior Consultant Customer Systems Employee Review

1.0
28 Jan 2013
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Pros

Experts at Siebel CRM and OBIEE Good graduate salaries Interesting projects

Cons

Business is declining due to non competitive consulting rate Most employees leave after 2-3 years Unstructured Training Employees are discouraged from socialising with each other Temperamental management decisions

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Customer Systems Response
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Comments from Steve A Firstly, please see html://www.customersystems.com/employeefeedback.htm Again, some of this duplicates to a degree some criticisms which also appear in some of the 3 reviews above and so I will refer you to the replies above rather than repeat. [Business is declining due to non competitive consulting rate] In 2012, we were shrinking. In 2013, we are growing again [Most employees leave after 2-3 years] The average is actually a bit longer than this but I am not sure I see this as a problem anyway. The travelling lifestyle of a consultant suits people at one stage of their life but, for many, it ceases to suit them later. This means that, unless they are part of the minority that make it to management in Customer Systems, they have to move on. I do not mean to imply that this is the only reason people leave us but the fact that many will leave after 2-3 years is kind of baked into the business model. There are over 150 ex-employees of Customer Systems in the world and many who only worked for us for 2-3 years I remember with enormous respect and gratitude for the contributions they made while they were with us. [Unstructured Training] Our training could be described as unstructured or as structured in a massively different way from conventional training Whatever phrasing you use, there is no doubt that it is extremely different from the norm. We regard our training process as one of our biggest strengths and many of our ex-employees concur with this. We also sell a shortened version of this training to customers and some comments can be found at http://www.customersystems.com/customer-comments

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5.0
31 May 2015
Anonymous employee
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Pros

I was a foreign student from a good school and good GPA, but not much luck with the 'bigger guys'. It was Customer Systems that took a chance on me, and helped me find my passion with a career that I still enjoy to this day, 10 years later. Customer Systems is a 'job on steroids', within months, you develop true deep expertise; and that's not just a company slogan, your expertise gets validated everytime you visit clients and see how you compare against others. I can speak for 'my generation', we all had stories of beating Oracle at their own game. We all had a strong 'can do' spirit that CS instilled in us, and we had so much fun at our clients sides In the span of 6 years I worked at over 18 clients in six industry sectors. I started with Siebel CRM, but CS recognized that I enjoy reports too, so they helped me develop expertise in OBIEE. Not a single dull moment The hiring salary was low, yes, but within two years I was making more money than my friends who started at the same time, and the gap continued to grow. Added bonus: Being a foreigner, it was Customer Systems that sponsored my green card application so that I don't have to worry about visas. I left CS as I decided I need to slow down on the travel side and spend more time with family and friends. I wish everyone at CS the best !

Cons

The job is sometimes too demanding and can affect your personal life, a lot of 'lost time' in travel when you are working on remote assignments, but that's no surprise; you are told that from the getgo. It's fun in the first few years, ok later on, but then becomes too much. There isn't much 'telecommuting' or 'work from home', at least not in my time. but again, they are clear about that from day 1.

5.0
24 Jul 2013
Recommend
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Pros

Excellent training program: Customer Systems turned me into a valuable consultant in six weeks through its rigorous training program. Esprit de corps: More than a decade after leaving Customer Systems I am fortunate to count many of my former colleagues as close friends. Experience: There are not many entry level positions that accord the level of responsibility that one is expected to take at Customer Systems. Skills: The techincal training was superb. What I did not realise at the time, but became aware of as I moved into a different industry, was how many transferable consulting skills I learned. These included project management, business processe re-engineering, change mananagement and the ability and confidence to communicate effectively with a wide range of people from executives down. Integrity: Steve and Duncan made this central. Many firms pay lip service.

Cons

The travel can certainly be arduous, so go in with your eyes open. This is the nature of consulting and is not specific to Customer Systems.

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